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Old 15-04-2006, 11:43
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Alright Ed,

I'm going to be doing some work on the squidgy pop thing today, logo, rough web site design. My number one aim is for this site to shit all over any other Braintree band website that there has ever been. I'm going to try and not make it look like some amatuer has got hold of dreamweaver and photoshop and used a load of templates to create quite a cheesy looking site. Send us any ideas you may have for content, images, fonts etc. When I've got something worth showing a put it up on a free site somewhere but I'll send you the details of that later.

Speak to you soon geezer, this squidgy pop thing is going to be quality!!!

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Old 15-04-2006, 13:57
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Neilsy

ok so i'm thinking white background, green & black text / logo. in the centre a
photo that sums up the vibe of the record & braintree people can
relate to
im thinking a photo of a park (i.e. telfords or the sluds park done
tastefully of course) where you got the grass at the bottom, tree
line or sky line in middle & sunny sky at the top. black border round
it. squidgy pop logo in black, summer scorchers in green maybe. back
of the sleeve again black & green text for the track listing
copywrite etc.

thats just for the e.p. i havnt got any ideas for the website, cept
im liking the white background, green & black vibe for the summer but
thats totally up to you mate, just the first thing that came to me.

anyway the major major point i wanna sort out is that i don't really want any
songs on the e.p. that i haven't personally recorded, cos they'll
stick out like a sore thumb & as il be spamming loads of cash at the
mastering & duplication, after we've sold the majority to our friends
id love to be able to give some extra ones from my half of the stock
out to label people etc & say yeh i recorded edited & mixed
everything on this ep, infact i sort of want the e.p.s artwork on the
back to say all tracks copywrite squidgypop 2006 recorded, edited &
mixed by ed dann, or something similar, cool?

so il be doing blueys two bands
"the concorde agreement" & "capitol hill", "arcade", il be doing
johnsons "321go!" track the same way as i did your "seymore happy"
track on my mac in london, plus my own "crash arcade" track is in
development as well so thats 6 songs.

course that leaves the awkward situation that your own band "chunky"
aint recording with me anymore for whatever reason, my offer still stands & the weekend
of 28th,29th&30th april and the 5th, 6th & 7th of may. would be such
a shame if chunky dont get a properly recorded song on the e.p. but i felt there
was something weird going down cos i arranged with jot a few weeks
ago this recording & he was up 4 it, as was rich & your good self, then i guess a soon as you all decided to record this live demo at stag instead him & rich haven't been replying to my texts. what do you reckon the best way is? i honestly don't think it would sound right if all the
bands were recorded/mixed by me then there was a live chunky song sounding
totally different & sticking out, know what i mean?

anyway gotta go look at some flats in islington

mail me whenever with yr thoughts when you can, im really looking
forward to getting this squidgy pop thing on the case
ps i guess you read my myspace mail out invite thing, blueys gonna
host the launch party on 10th June, will be so cool!


ed
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Old 15-04-2006, 22:11
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Ed,

First of all don't be pissed off but,

I do understand the whole you wanting to record all the songs and everything, but you've got to understand that squidgy pop is all about lo-fi and it would be against against everything its stands for to not put a track out because of the production. Seen as Chunky is a Squidgy Pop band they have to be on the record. What I'm going to suggest is that with we can't / don't do a proper recording with you, is that maybe me and rich record an accoustic version of one of our songs with you, but I'll have to talk to the rest of the boys about that.

Its a bit harsh that they have been ignoring you. It's not that we don't want to record with you, but all the music us guys are into have a really lo-fi almost poor quailty sound to it and you being a musical and production perfectionist may not be able accomendate that sound, a sound we really want to try, hence the fact we want to try a live recording. I might sound shit but we just want to expriment. I'm sure we can work something out, but basicly Chunky has to be on this record we are part of the Braintree scene.

Please Don't think I'm being harsh, but I just thought being a mate that I should just tell the score no bullshit and all that.

I totally understand the whole wanting to put your name on it and all, and if we do use a Chunky song you haven't recorded we can make it very clear, I heard loads of label comps where production varies from song to song a shit load and can't see it being a problem. I fact it might even add something to the whole feel of the E.P. But at the end of the day Squidgy pop is all about Lo-Fi I can't leave something off the record bacause of production.

Hope your not pissed off at Me, let me know what you think.



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Old 16-04-2006, 15:15
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hey neil,

yeh dont worry bout thinking youve pissed me off, you know im not like that, i prefer mates telling me what they actually think, rather than people telling me what they think i want to hear, stringing me along for ages then ignoring my calls & texts when it comes down to it!

anyway, yeh we have to agree on this situation now incase it spoils the whole vibe we are trying to create with an ed vs chunky situation or some bollocks. of course i want "chunky" to be on the e.p. as the original idea we had its about new projects, all new line ups etc, as well as the summer vibe & the old skool braintree crew etc. i want everyone possible to feature, but without compromising the vision.

when we had this amazing idea last weekend the vision was for all the bands/artists who accept the invite to do a special song with me just for the e.p. not for bands to submit a song from a demo thats already been recorded elsewhere. its gonna be an exclusive, unique product we are creating & its the one & only time possible we can do it so we dont want anything possibly fucking it up.

from my point of view its going to be a great production experience which i am so looking forward to, although its gonna be the toughest challenge yet creating a flowing e.p. with a summer vibe, incorporating all my mates braintree scene new projects, creating a special product for all the bands & our friends etc. but you know i can only do that if i record & mix everything myself & as i'l be chucking a lot of $ at this project having a track i haven't worked on, thrown in there due to politics would really really spoil it for me. of course i will be consulting you on the mixes aswell btw.

dont get me wrong i do totally understand your point of view about what squidgy pop stands for but this project isnt squidgy pop, its squidgy pop & me, so for the sake of this specific project and what the project itself actually stands for i really dont think we can put a song on the e.p. that hasnt been done in the spirit for it & sounds totally different & out of place up against all the other tracks. we are only talking about just one track as well that would be different, it would stand out like a sore cock, yeh sure if the e.p. was being made up of loads of random recordings of different levels of quality, done in different places etc it wouldnt be a problem having a live track on it, but the thing is i wouldn't wanna be involved & throw $ at a thing like that, that'd be the sort of thing just squidgy does itself.

so basically without any more messing around im saying we cant have a live recording on it, and i dont want anything on it that i haven't done. we have to stick to the original vision we both had, which means there cant be a song on the e.p. thats been taken from another demo, it has to be specially recorded with me specifically for the e.p. i have made it clear to every other band that the song they submit is for squidgy only, cannot be given out on their own demo or leaked to anyone & has been recorded by me either at same time as their forthcoming demo or specially arranged at some point soon & everyone who we have invited has agreed & is well up for it, its only chunky that aint yet! i don't understand why you can't just record a song with me?

so yeh i guess the reason you are all busy that weekend i've left booked for chunky on 28th & 29th april is cos thats when the live stag recording actually is so you'll have to let me know another time when its possible to do the track. maybe chose the best mellow song from your live recording & record it with me? obviously at some point before june. and of course i can make you sound lo-fi, i much prefer old-school analog vibes than perfect digital, it'll sound cool as fuck i promise. and dont you think it'd be better if chunky release your live cd as your live cd but had a properly recorded song on the summer e.p. as well?

ps dont worry i aint pished off with you personally at all, im just well in to this project & want the best for everyones sakes, that why i gotta say what i think.

fucking hell that was long, shame you weren't with yr fone earlier or i could have just said this stuff to you

anyway mate get back to me today if ya can. also what you think about the artwork ideas? what have you come up with?

ed
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Old 16-04-2006, 18:17
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Hey man,

I think the real problem is that we both have very different ideas and visions for this. I really want to another record in the mould of Springtime bloomers, something which is really just a bit of fun and not taken too seriously, where anyone who wants to record a song for it can regardless of weather its being recorded in a million pound recording studio or and a tape recorder.

I agree that it would be nice for the songs not to be used on anything else but I don't agree they should all be recorded by the same person. At the end of the day Chunky, Seymore Happy, White Belt Katta and rich's soon to be named project are the 4 squidgy pop artists and if its going be a squidgy pop release all the squidgy pop bands have to be on it.

I'm glad your not pissed off at me, you can't take disagreements personally. But at the end of the day iif you really don't want anything else on there we might have to look at doing 2 releases. One for your stuff through schizoacoustic records and a squidgy pop release. We could still have a joint release party and all that stuff. Anyway must go cause the old man wants to use his computer

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Old 16-04-2006, 21:42
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yeh mate seems we dont share the same vision afterall, i thought you originally wanted to release all the bands & solo artists tunes i have/will be recording in these next couple months under the squidgy pop name.

thats what i thought we talked about in london but unfortunately i didnt realise it'd be this awkward and that the chunky crew dont think im capable of getting a lo-fi sound and would wanna go to someone else to record & also i had no idea that you had planned on having all these lo-fi 4 track style tunes on the case that dont involve me as well cos you mentioned nothing about them at all when you were in london. but anyway the good thing is we know what we both want now so we'll have to find a solution.

if we did have two releases it means the squidgy name would miss out on all the cool new stuff il be recording, unless thats what youd prefer?

BUT i think it'd be a mistake having two eps released at the same party cos we'd be competing for punters etc. so basically i guess what im saying is as it looks like there will now be two on the case & i really want the artists i record to be under squidy, would you be up for releasing the summer ep that im recording, through the squidgy name as planned, for the sake of this summer vision i had, but saving the lo-fi recorded actual squidgy artists tracks for your next release?

just let me know what you think soon as cos the recordings are under way alreaady

and if you think NO then we'll think of something else mate
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